Baat Marum Podcast

Baat Marum

बात मारूम पर्यावरण, वातावरण, र समुदायमा केन्द्रित रहेकाे प्रकृति संरक्षण तथा अध्ययन केन्द्रद्वारा सुरू गरीएकाे पडकास्ट हाे ।

Baat Marum is a podcast dedicated to discussing ecology, environment, and community, produced by Nature Conservation and Study Centre (NCSC) Nepal.

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Episode #1: चेपांग समुदाय र पर्यटन|Chepang Community and Tourism
Episode #2: चमेरा र चेपांग |Chamera and Chepang
Episode #3: अन्तरास्ट्रिय बाघ दिवस | International Tiger Day 2021

Episode #1: चेपांग समुदाय र पर्यटन|Chepang Community and Tourism

याे पहिलाे श्रृंखलामा अदिती, मीना र काैशलले नेपालकाे आदिवासी चेपांग समुदाय र पर्यटनले उनीहरूकाे आर्थिक स्तराेन्नतिमा खेल्न सक्ने भुमिकाकाे बारेमा छलफल गरेकाे छन् ।

In this pilot episode, Aditi, Meena, and Kaushal discuss the indigenous Chepang community of Nepal and the role of tourism in their economic upliftment.

You can also listen to this episode on YouTube – बात मारूमः चेपांग समुदाय र पर्यटन | Baat Marum Podcast, Episode #1: Chepang Community and Tourism

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[Music]

Intro (3 minutes) ~ Kaushal Yadav

[Namaskar hamlai yo podcast bata suniranu bhako sampurna swarta sathibhai haru lai swagat cha. Hamro yo podcast bisesh gari batabaran, prakriti ra manab samudaye sambhandhit bibhinna bisaya bastu ra uniharu bich ko antarkriya ma kendrit bhayera kei chalfal ra kehi jankariharu yahaharu samakshya rakhnechau. Aja ko yo hamro episode Chepang samudayeko bisayama jasma pani Chepang samudayema paryatan ko awasar ya bhanum Eco-tourism ko awasta kasto cha ra sambhabana k cha bhanne kura ma kendrit rahanecha . Chitwan jillako Shaktikhor Siraichuli ra Gadi ra aaspaas ko chettra ma basobas gardai aaunu bahyeka Chepang samudaya ra tyaha ko parya paryatan, jaibik bibidhata ra sanskritik sampadako barema kehi chalfal garnaka lagi hamrai sathiharu Meena ra Aditi yeha hami samkashya hunuhuncha.]

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Segment 1 – Chepang and Chepang Heritage Trail (5 minutes) ~ Aditi Subba

Chepang samudaayako baarema bhannu pardaa chai yo community Nepal ko one of the highly marginalized communities madhya ko eauta community ho. Mahabharata mountain range ma paayiney indigenous community, Chepang haru historically ta semi-nomadic tribal group bhanera chiniyeka bhaye taa pani, ailey recently uniharu permanent settlement practice gardai gareko bhetiyeko pani cha. Infact, Chepang community chai agriculture initiate garney Nepali community bhari sabai bhandaa nayaa community bhanera maaniyeko cha. Tara pani kheti-paati garera pani tyo community lai 6 mahinaa jasto maatra khanu pugne raicha. Rest of the year, tya ko local labor kaamharu gareara athawa bidesh gayera manual labor ma dependent raicha community cai income generation ko lagi. Huna ta ailey aayera dherai jaankaari yo community baare general media ma aai raakheko cha ani related information ra issues haru discuss bhai rakhekko cha paila herikana. Issues ra information discuss hudai gardaa pani, yo community ko livelihood upliftment ra samudayako fundamental development socheko jastai huna saki raakheko chaina., National ra local level ko organization haru le yo samudaya ko upliftment ko laagi kaam haru gari raakhe pani, ajhai pani Chepang community aafno basic needs to laagi natural resources haru ma nai dherai dependent cha.

Community uplift huncha bhanerai Nepal government le TRPAP which is Tourism for Rural Poverty Alleviation Program launch gareko thiyo 2001 A.D. ma, under Ministry of Culture, Tourism and Civil Aviation, jasma chai UNDP-Nepal, DFID-Nepal ra SNV-Nepal le financial ra technical support gareko raicha. Program ko main aim chai tourism development ko activities haru ma local maanchey haru ko participation badhaayera uniharuko livelihood laai improve garne, uniharuko standard of living improve garne raicha. Ani tesko laagi chai 6 wota jilla chaaniyeko thiyo: Taplejung, Solukhumbu, Rasuwa, Chitwan, Rupandehi ra Dolpa ho. Chitwan ma chai Chepang community lai emphasize garera Chepang Heritage Trail banako raicha tyo cai Dhading jillaa ko Hugdi baata start hudai, Kaule, Hattibang ra Siddhi katera Shaktiikhor ma sakincha. Yo 7din ko trekking route tourism promote garne hisaab le tyei area ko different chepang household haru laai connect garera ani tyaha auney visitors haru lai uniharuko culture, tradition, food harule manoranjan diyera euta revenue earning opportunity deko raicha. Ani tyo shanghai, auney visitors haru lai dhyaanma raakhera home stay haru ko pani facilities haru sikayeko raicha yo trekking route open garda kheri. Tyo homestay provision ani tyo sangai visitors haru lai dine jun facilities haru ko provision tesla cai Chepang community lai income generation ko important opportunity pani khulaidiyeko raicha, yo trekking route le.

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Segment 2 – Tourism & Biodiversity of the Trail (5 minutes) ~ Meena Bohara

So jaba Chepangharuko aarthik unnati hosh bhanerai san 2001 ma heritage trail ghosana gariyo taba dekhi nai yas thauma paryatak haru ko aawat jawat suru vayeko ho ra pachillo samayema cai utka kram ullekhaniya rupma badeko dekhincha. Trail antargat mukhya akarshan bhaneko trail ma basobaas gariraheka semi-nomadic hunters ra gatherers vanera chinine chepang ethnic ‘community, uniharuko rahanshahan, chaal chalan, culture ra traditions nai hun.

Teska sathsathai anya akarshan haruma, trail bata dekhine manoram prakritik drishya haru, arthat Siraichuli bata dekhine sunrise ra sunset, Aitihasik Upardang Gadhi, Chitram waterfall, Sinti ra Nok lagayat ka gufa, bato bata dekhine Magar ra Gurung villages haru, ra Shaktikhor ma raheko Chepang culture ko living museum raheka chan. Samudri sataha bata 250m dekhi 1000m samma ko uchaima failiyeko yas chetra ma Tropical ra Subtropical Mixed Forest dominant chhan, jun jaibik bibodhata ko hisable mahatwopurna chetra ko rupma parichit chha. Trail antargat parne Gadhi-Siraichuli area, Nepal ko 37 Important Bird and Biodiversity Areas madhya ko ek ho, jasma bivinna prajatika globally threatened species haru record vayeka chan jas antargat:Grey-crowned Prinia, Indian Spotted Eagle, Greater Spotted Eagle ra Steppe Eagle haru pardachan.

Ajha yo chyetra ko pramukh akarshan ra bishesta ko kura garnu parda Nepal ma matra paine Kaande bhyaakur (Spiny Babbler) naam ko chara ullekhya sankhya ma trail bhariabalokan garna paunu ho, ra yehi awalokan garne kura le cai ahile ko samayama paryatakharu lai ajha badhi taneko ra lobhayeko cai sthaniyaharu ko bhanai cha. Tasartha yas trail ma 400-450 prajatika charaharu sajilai awalokan garna sakincha Bivinna survey anusar yas chetra ma 15 prajatika sthandhari janawarharu paincha, jasma Common Leopard, Black Giant Squirrel, Assamese Monkey lagayat ka janawar haru frequently dekhna sakincha.

Sathai halsamma 56 prajatika putaliharu yes chetrama record vaisakeka chhan So, yo sabai kuraharu lai manan garda cai floral ra faunal diversity ko hisable pani yo trail cai mahatwopurna raheko paiyeko chha.

Trail lai thap byabastit banauna homestay haru sanchalan chan ra tyo homestay haru lai ekdum ramro sita bebastik gareko pani paiyeko cha.

Trail lai thap byabastit banauna homestay haru sanchalan chan ra tyo homestay haru lai ekdum ramro sita bebastik gareko pani paiyeko cha. Tesko sathai birdwatching, cooking, handicraft, trail management lagayat ka sipmulak taalim prapta sthaniyeharule tourism development ra promotion ka lagi mahatwopurna bhumika khelirakheka chhan. Falsworup trail ma awastit Chepang samudayako jibikoparjan ma tourism le ramrai tewa puryayeko dekhna sakincha.

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Segment 3 – Chepang and their Relation with nature ~ Aditi Subba

Coming back to the community, Chepang haru euta indigenous community bhako le uhaharuko bibhinna kala sanskrtiti haruma nature sanga ko sambandha ko baare ma ni barnan paainchha. Jastai, Chiuri, jaslai butter tree bhanera pani bhanincha, yo rukh praya pahadi chhetra ma paainchha ra Asadh-Shrawan tira yesma fulharu fulna thaalchha. Ani yo rukh ko chhuttai mahatwo hundo raichha Chepang community ma, jastai yo rukh chori lai bihey ma daijo ko rup ma diney raichha kina bhanda, esko dherai thari ko products haru banayera ghar mai prayog garna milney raichha. Esko fal khaanu milne bhayo, beeya le tel pani banaunu milne bhayo jun tel chai khaana pakauna lai use garna milne raicha.

Huna ta ahile chalanchalti ma tetti chhaina tara pahile pahile yo chiuri bata baneko tel kathmandu ma gumbaharuma batti baalna proyog hune manyata raichha ra record haruma pani bhetiyeko thiyo. Ani Ubreko beeya ko pinaa lai mal ko rup ma ni prayog garney bhaihalyo jun cai aailepani gauharuma chalairakhnu hudoraicha. Tesko paat kai tapari pani banauna jaaney haru le tapari banayera, ghar ma prayog garna laai ani dauraa, syaulaa ko laagi pani atyantai madatkaari rukh bhako hunaale chai chori lai yo rukh ko saano sapling diney gariyeko raicha-daijo ko rup ma. Yo prachalan aba ailey kunai kunai thau ma maatra practice hudo raicha, tara pani yo chalan ko baaremaa chai ekdamai well informed hudo rahechan sabai generation ko Chepang samudayeharu ma. Chepang pani ani non-chepang pani jun cai chepang community ko najik basnu huncha.

So esari, historically yo samudaaya prakriti sangha ekdamai najik, ahile pani ban jangal ma dainik livelihood ko laagi bhar parney bhayeko le jungle ra natural resources yas samudaaya ko laagi culturally pani ani aafno basic need ko laagi pani ati mahatwapurna maniyeko ho.

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Segment 4 – Ecotourism to sustain (5 minutes) ~ Kaushal Yadav

What could the future hold for this area?

Yo samudayema Eco-tourism ko awasta ra awasar ko kura garnu parda ta sathiharu le bhane jastai awasta ra awasar ko kura ta bhayo tara bholi ko din ma yo kisim ko paryatan ya bhanum, Eco-tourism ko bhawisya kasto hola bhanne prasna auna jancha. Hamro desh Nepal ko paribesh ma kura garnu parda Eco-tourism ko mukhya adhar haru Culture- Sanskriti ra Prakriti -nature ko ekdumai thulo bhumika huncha. Eco-tourism ma k k herne bhanne cai yo dui kura ma badi bhar parne hudo raicha.

Hamle Chepang samudayeko kura garda kheri yi duita kuraharu nai bharpur roopma hamle dekhne raichau, jasto culture ko kura garda- chori lai daijo ko rup ma Chuiri ko sano biruwa dine, uniharu ko prakriti prati ko sambhanda haru- uniharu ko mukhya puja bhanekai “Bhuijyasa” bhanne hudo riacha jasm bhumi puja arthat land ko puja garne bhanne hudo raicha. Aile ni tyako alikati older generation ko mancheharu sanga kura garne ho bahne jungle cai hamro bassthan thyo bhanne khalko kura haru garnu huncha ra hamro khanaharu cai tei bata khojera khantheu bahnera kura garnu huncha.

Esto unique culture haru jastai bibhinna chad-parba haru ra uniahru ko harek kisim ko ritiriwajharu jasto euta Nwagi bahnne chaad uhaharu le bisesh gari manaunu hudo raicha. Nwagi bhaneko bali utpadan bhayepachi ko pahilo harvest cai uhahaur le puja garisakepachi balla afno bhog chalan ma leraunu hudo raicha ra tyo garda uhaharu dhol (drum) bajaune ani nach nachne ra tyo sangsangai geet gaune jun sajha bata suru bahyera raatbhari nai manaunu hudo raicha. Puja garda ni kandamul haru prayig garne, dhanharu chadaune ra aru annaharu chadaune ra tespachi balla afule prayig garne (khane) garnu hudo raicha. Yo khalko cultural uniqueness bahyeko thau bhako huna le pani hamle Eco-tourism cai Cultural-tourism ko adhar ma yaha promote garna ekdum sakincha bhanne awasar dekhincha.

Arko Nature tourism ko kura garda ekdumai Charaharuko lagi ramro thau pani manincha, Gadi ra Siraichuli area lai Nepal ko 37 IBAs matlab Important Bird and Biodiversity Areas maddheko euta bahnera suchikrit garisakeko cha, jas antargat agi kura gare jastai Spiny Babbler (Kaande bhyaakur) pani yes chhetra ma sajilai dekhna sakine bahnne cha, ra, yo sangsangai aru bibhinna globally threatened species haru- chara kai kura garda jasto Grey-crowned Prinia, ra aakarshak charaharu Trogon ko species haru sajilai dekhe bhako huna le pani yo chettra ma bird watching ko roop bata euta nature tourism pani hamle agadi lerauna sakchau.

Chara sangsangai, standhari janawar (mammal) haru ko kura garda pani pahila gareko casual survey bata 15 ota standhari janawarharu yes chhetra ma record bhaisakeka chan, ra sana standhari ani sarisripa (reptiles, amphibians) haruko khasai documentation cai bhaisakeko chaina, tara euta report ma cai k bhaniyek ocha bhane yes chhetra bata 56 ota putali ko species haru record bhako cha tray o record ajhai incomplete ho ra yesma ajhai detail survey cai garna baki cha.

Yo kuraharu le k dekhaucha bahne yes chhetra ma cai prakritik prayatan ko prachur sambhavana yes chhetra le bokeko cha ra yes chettra ma cai Eco-tourism lai promote garne ho bhane hamle culture ani nature ko base ma rahera cai yo chhetra lai agadi lana sakchau

Outro (2 minutes) ~ Kaushal Yadav

Summarize the discussion and segments with conclusion

Tesaikaran chepang samudaya ra uniharuko prakitri pratiko nirbharta ra sambandha ma chalfal garirahada, ecotourism(parya-paryatan) lai prabhavkari madhyam ya bhanum best alternative for uplifting their livelihood bhanera bhanna sakincha.

Mukhyata raajdhani Kathmandu ra Chitwan rastriya nikunja jasto paryatakiya chetra ko bichama rahe pani, yo chetra ma paryatan udhyog le apekchit bikash ya bhanum fadko marnu sakiraheko chaina ra yes chetra ko ecotourism ko awasar ra awastha lai ajhai badhi anusandhan garera wa ajhai bujhera ra sohi anuroop prabardhan(promotion) ko karyakram agadi lyauna sakiye ma sambhawata yes chetra ko prakritik, saanskritik sampaada haru jogaerna hunu ko sathai chepang samudaya ko aarthik awastha ma pani digo rupma tewa pugna jaanecha.

[Music][End of Episode]

Episode #2: चमेरा र चेपांग|Chamera and Chepang

पहिलो शृंखलामा हामीले चितवन जिल्लामा बसोबास गर्दै आएका आदिवाशी चेपांग समुदाय, उनीहरुको संस्कृति, प्राकृतिक शेरोफेरो र परापूर्व कालदेखि उनीहरुको प्रकृतिसंगको बेजोड परम्परागत सम्बन्धको वारेमा छलफल गरेका थियौ। संग-संगै हामीले त्यस क्षेत्रमा चेपांग संस्कृति र प्राकृतिक सम्पदाको आधारमा त्यस क्षेत्रमा पर्यापर्यटन सम्भावनाको विषयमा कुरा गरेका थियौ ।

आजको यस शृंखलामा हामी सोहि चेपांग समुदायको चिउरीको बोट र चमेरा संगको अन्तरसम्बन्धको बारेमा कुरा गर्नेछौ। विशेष गरि चेपांग समुदायमा सांस्कृतिक महत्त्व बोकेको चिउरी र त्यस चिउरीको बोटलाई फैलाउन मदत गर्ने चमेराको घट्दो संख्याको बारेमा कुरा राख्ने छौँ ।

This episode discusses the interrelationship between the indigenous Chepang community of Nepal with butter trees (chiuri) and bats (chamera).

You can also listen to this episode on YouTube – बात मारूमः चमेरा र चेपांग | Baat Marum Podcast, Episode #2: Chamera and Chepang

Episode #3: अन्तरास्ट्रिय बाघ दिवस | International Tiger Day 2021

यो एपिसोड नेपालमा बाघ संरक्षणको स्तिथि, इतिहास, चुनौती र उपलब्धिमा केन्द्रित रहनेछ। आजको यो एपिसोड अन्तरास्ट्रिय बाघ दिवस विशेष रहनेछ।

This episode focuses on the status, history, challenges, and achievements of tiger conservation in Nepal. Today’s episode will be the International Tiger Day Special.

You can also listen to this episode on YouTube – बात मारूमः अन्तरास्ट्रिय बाघ दिवस | Baat Marum Podcast, Episode #3: International Tiger Day 2021